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Perfecting the people process



How Jeff Kaye finds and keeps top talent at Kaye/Bassman International Corp.

By Kristy J. O’Hara


Smart Business Dallas | July 2007

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More than 50 percent of the people Jeff Kaye hires at his executive recruiting firm are referred to him by his own employees, helping him find quality people. As president and CEO of Kaye/Bassman International Corp., he helps clients find and keep the best people, so it’s imperative that he does the same at his $20 million firm.

Smart Business spoke with Kaye about how retaining employees is like creating a $50 million painting.

Q: How do you identify quality people?

One of those stock market footnotes that says past successes is not a guarantee of future indications — they show them because they’re about as good of an indication of future performance as you can get. If you put your money in a mutual fund that’s had a 15 percent return for 10 years, it’s not a guarantee that it will next year, but it’s a heck of a better risk than one that’s going to generate a 2 percent return.

The same is true of people. Did the individual achieve past success in the areas that you’re interested in achieving success in?

Everyone says, ‘I want someone who’s hardworking, driven, organized.’ ... Does anyone ever have an opening for lazy, unambitious, disorganized, lack of integrity? Identify the characteristics that an organization wants in a person specific to what those words mean to the company.

Q: How do you attract people?

Look at most positions companies post. They usually have company name, title, responsibilities, qualifications, send your resume here, we’re an equal opportunity employer, a phone number and Web site.

If you see an ad that says, ‘Must have the ability to do A, B, C,’ that’s not going to attract you if you’re happy where you’re at and doing a good job. Your answer is, ‘Well, I know what that is — you think you’re going to woo me by reading me my job description?’

A good ad says here are all the reasons why to join us, why we’re great, what we offer, what a person can accomplish by joining us, the benefits associated with joining us.

Your ability to attract them has got to be focused on selling them. When you turn on your television set, those ads sell you on why to buy their product. They don’t qualify you on whether you’re capable; if you have this much money and a driver’s license, then we can sell you a Cadillac.

It’s the same principle as looking at your opportunity as a product. Attract first. Screen second.

Q: How do you secure those people?

If you’re pulling the fish in and the line breaks, what good does it do you that you fished in the right place, used the right bait and got the right kind of fish? Didn’t bring them in the boat, so what difference does it make?

The ability to effectively land the talent you want is equally critical. The only way you can effectively do that is to focus on a person’s hopes, goals, dreams and aspirations — hot buttons.

Understand why this person is doing what they’re doing. What do they wish they could be doing that they’re currently not? If they were running their own firm, what changes would they make?

Find out — what’s it going to take to get you? The answer is finding out early on a candidate’s compensation, and compensation doesn’t mean salary. It means the overall package, expectations and current level of remuneration, and then checking in along the process because things can change.

People are not like milk that sits on a shelf with an expiration date — ‘As long as you drink the milk in two months, you’ll be fine.’ You can have an individual that you think is a good candidate, and four days later, imagine the milk hopping off the shelf and saying, ‘No, I’m expired.’ Constantly being in communication with your candidate throughout the whole process is imperative.

Q: How do you retain people?

There’s no way any organization that had an expensive piece of equipment wouldn’t maintain it. You wouldn’t treat it poorly because it has too much value. Yet how often do organizations fail to deliver the same level of care to people that they do to machines?

Leaders don’t have people work for them — they have people they serve. Either serve them or watch your most precious assets walk out the door.

It’s like looking at a great painting and saying which stroke was it that made the painting. If I took 10 strokes away, would it still be the painting? What about 30? 50? At one point does it stop becoming a Picasso? When does it just become something my 6-year-old daughter could do in her art class versus something that could sell for $50 million? You just don’t know.

A good leader recognizes it’s not a destination to get to. It’s a constant journey to create an environment that inspires people to do great work. Create that through the culture, systems, infrastructure and economic offerings that you provide.

HOW TO REACH: Kaye/Bassman International Corp., (972) 931-KBIC or www.kbic.com

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