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Thinking ahead



How Jim Carulas eased into his new role at Meaden & Moore LLP by always keeping an eye on the future

By Mark Scott


Smart Business Cleveland | September 2007

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While it has been only one year since Jim Carulas took over as president and CEO of Meaden & Moore LLP, he is already looking ahead to the day when he steps down from the position.

“We view ourselves as stewards of this company,” Carulas says. “We’re here to govern and to run this company in our generation, and then to allow the opportunity for the next generation to run it and mold it as they see fit. The only way we’re able to really do that is by thinking long term and thinking about succession throughout the organization.”

Successful companies are organizations that are always thinking about succession planning.

“It’s the need to look into the future, look at the kind of characteristics, the kind of people, the kind of skill sets you’re going to need, and plan for that. The future holds lots of opportunities and challenges. You can only plan so much, but if you don’t plan at all, you’re always open to a surprise.”

Carulas replaced Lawrence J. Holland, who had served as CEO since 1995. Meaden & Moore, which has about 180 employees, spent 12 months planning the change in leadership and another 12 months making the transition from Holland to Carulas.

“If you plan for the change and you give enough time for the change, the change can be less disruptive and actually very positive,” Carulas says.

Time provides an opportunity for people to express opinions and hash out concerns before the actual change in leadership is made. This includes talking to employees, clients and other stakeholders of the company to gather input.

This planning becomes even more crucial when a company goes outside its own walls to find a new leader.

“Making rash decisions where you go to the outside for a solution sometimes can backfire,” Carulas says. “While it’s great you bring in a different skill set, if that skill set coming in can’t get comfortable with the culture, you’ll have multiple problems.”

Once the new leader takes over, the dialogue needs to continue.

“It’s hearing and listening to other ideas,” Carulas says. “People will start divulging a little bit differently when you are taking over a position because it is an opportunity for change. If you have an open mind and ask the questions and you just listen, I think you’ll hear a lot of solutions and a lot of opportunities from the people that work in the organization.”

As you listen to ideas from the employees, you’re likely to have some ideas of your own about changes that would benefit the company. And Carulas says that as long as these changes are carefully considered and not too numerous, it’s OK to implement them.

“An executive needs to have in their mind what changes they want to make,” Carulas says. “When you’re going to run an organization, you pick that which is the most important and maybe some that aren’t as important but signify that things are different. You begin to put those in place immediately.”

The key is to be open and communicative with your employees.

“If you remain silent, I don’t know that that’s in anybody’s best interest,” Carulas says.

“Having me spend a lot of time in a lot of the different offices has helped me a great deal. (It) has helped everybody understand better who I am and what the expectations are of me and what my expectations are of them.”

HOW TO REACH: Meaden & Moore LLP, (216) 241-3272 or www.meadenmoore.com

Making the transition

One of the best ways for a new CEO to ensure a smooth leadership transition is to maintain a healthy relationship with the outgoing CEO.

“Change is effective and it’s smooth, and it can be exciting for the organization when you have the full support and buy-in of the prior CEO,” says Jim Carulas. “As much dialogue and whatever there is about the person taking over, it’s as important that the person who is stepping aside be as supportive and as cooperative as possible.”

About a year ago, Carulas replaced Larry Holland as president and CEO of Meaden & Moore LLP. Today, Holland remains active in the management of the firm as an executive vice president.

Holland says that an outgoing CEO should stay busy to make the transition go more smoothly.

“One day you’re making the decisions, the next day you can’t,” Holland says. “You need to have a plan of action for yourself before you just give up those responsibilities.”

As for leading the company, Holland tries not to interfere and says he prefers to let Carulas approach him if questions arise.

“My primary role to Jim is just to be available as a sounding board and to support Jim when he needs it,” Holland says. “The other thing I need to do is stay out of his way. ... It’s more important for him to come to me when he has questions or is seeking support or wondering about how we did things rather than me checking with him.”

HOW TO REACH: Meaden & Moore LLP, (216) 241-3272 or www.meadenmoore.com

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