First job: Other than delivering newspapers, grocery store bagger, etc., worked second shift, National Cash Register Co., Dayton while attending the University of Dayton.
Career moves: Second lieutenant, Army Infantry, active duty. In the real estate business before political involvement led to lobbying in 1983; chair, Montgomery County Democratic Party, 1970-1977 and Ohio state Democratic Party, 1975-1983
What is the biggest challenge in business you've faced?
Our biggest challenge is operating our small business in regularly occurring tumultuous economic times. I liken meeting a payroll to having serious back trouble; unless you've done it, it's hard to explain.
What is the greatest lesson you've learned in business?
One of the greatest lessons I've learned in business has to do with getting to know Carl Lindner; I've had the opportunity to observe his actions closely for nearly 30 years. He has mastered the art of being an aggressive, successful international businessman while remaining a sensitive, caring human being, dedicating much of his time and assets to helping others.
My observation is that he is motivated by people's needs. He has the ability to help, and he does ... because he can. Obviously Mr. Lindner and I do not share a political philosophy, but that's only the means to an end. I believe we do agree upon the end, and that is helping people in need.
The lesson is this: The people who are successful and respected give their word after serious consideration, and they expect to be held responsible for their commitments.