Education: Bachelor of arts degree in political science from Indiana University; juris doctorate law degree, Indiana University School of Law Indianapolis
What was your very first job?
I was 14 and I worked on a farm baling hay. It was work. The first time you have a job, it’s like, ‘Man, they give me money to do this.’ So yeah, it was rewarding.
If you could have dinner with any three people from history, whom would they be and why?
George Washington, Caesar Augustus, Genghis Khan. Washington, even though you can tell he was a man of great personal pride, he was very much a public servant. He did not do his public service work for the enhancement of himself personally but for the betterment of the country.
Caesar is interesting to me because Rome was at its zenith during his reign. I’m intrigued by what he carried over from his uncle, which was his succession plan. It was not to look as his direct heirs but who’s the best. That may have been one of the reasons why Rome did so well for so long was it wasn’t hereditary. It was based on merit who became the next emperor. He established clear boundaries for the empire. It would be interesting to know how he had the foresight to set up the structure for the Roman Empire for the next 300 or 400 years that carried it forward.
Genghis Khan was interesting because of his humble beginnings. He conquered the largest land mass ever, and he did it relatively late in life. In his management structure, he very much rewarded competency and not family. He devised a number of new methods of warfare, horrible as they were, that seemed remarkable given the humble origins of himself and his people.